By Dave Andrusko
When I read Katie Yoder’s depressing—but fascinating—column, I instantly decided I need to listen to the Cho/Winstead exchange for myself.
Margaret Cho is a foul-mouth comedian who interviewed another foul-mouth comedian—Daily Show co-creator Lizz Winstead—on Cho’s May 26 podcast.
I often ask (mostly rhetorically) if people actually read what they write, or, in this case, think about what comes out of their mouths before they say it. At least on this particular podcast, for the bulk of it, Cho is close to incoherent, so there’s not a whole lot to say.
That is, until the end, when Cho talks/quasi giggles about her “favorite abortion”– which “was actually the abortion that I got in New York City which was the menstrual extraction.” Here the young unborn baby is sucked out. Typically it is a technique that pro-abortion feminists adore because it is often performed without any outside medical assistance.
“It’s super easy,” Cho gushed, “it required no anesthesia, no hospital stay – nothing.”
Nothing except the extinction of the unborn child.
Winstead is vastly more coherent, although accuracy is not her strong suit. The irony is she and Cho, but especially Winstead, keep repeating the same empty mantra. You just can’t TALK to these people (i.e., you and me) for many reasons, including that they (we) have our own linguistic world disconnected from reality. For example
“When they’re like, ‘Life begins at conception, I’m like (a) conception is not a medical term, it’s a term that comes from the Bible. But (b), like, I don’t subscribe to your premise on any level. And so, when you say, ‘What about, it’s a life with different DNA,’ and it’s like, ‘Cancer has different DNA.’”
Life begins at conception is a “term that comes from the Bible”?! Yowza. (BTW, often abortion advocates mix together when human life begins with the separate question of when “personhood” begins.)
Cancer also has “different DNA,” so, so much for the unborn child having a DNA different than her/his mother making any difference.
Well, cancers don’t have parents. When the human egg (ova) is fertilized with sperm, the resulting new human takes 50 percent of its DNA from each parent. But I’m guessing even Winstead knows that.
The rest of her rant is the usual usual about, say, waiting periods, which cramp autonomy. But one of the boilerplate ideas is so dangerous it is worth quoting from Yoder’s column:
“You get to decide the value of your own pregnancy,” Winstead said. “If the pregnancy that you have is a pregnancy that is unintended and not a pregnancy that you intend on carrying, then there is no mother, there is no baby.” But “if you are pregnant and you’re excited and you want to have a kid, you can put all the value on that pregnancy you want for yourself.”
She concluded later that the “full humanity and autonomy of people lie in the fact that you get to decide when and if you want to have kids and how you want to do that.”
I don’t want you, you literally don’t exist. If the Mom is psyched, then it’s okay to “put all the value on that pregnancy you want for yourself.”
“Full humanity and autonomy” is for me, not thee, Winstead tells us. In fact, unless a woman can define a baby out of existence (before physically eliminating the baby’s existence), she lacks “full emancipation.”
But what about the tastelessness of joking about abortion? Such reservations are for losers. Yoder begins by quoting Winstead
“People are like, ‘How can you make jokes about abortion?’ I’m like, ‘Because it’s just – I make jokes about any procedure I had,’” she stressed.
“Like this guy one time said to me, ‘How many abortions have you had?’” she remembered. “I’m like, ‘I don’t know, I don’t save receipts.’”
Cho laughed, “That’s so great.”
Winstead remarked, “I’ve had three abortions. I don’t care.”
You know what? I think I’d already figured that out